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Brandon Bass Says Play Me or Trade Me

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Via Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse:

Brandon Bass isn’t issuing any play-me-or-trade-me demand to the Orlando Magic. He is too nice, too soft spoken to make a pronouncement like that. It’s just not his way.

This is just a gentle reminder.

“I think they’ll do the right thing, whatever is the right thing — either play me next season or send me somewhere else. That’s what I’m hoping,” Bass told FanHouse earlier this week following the Summer Groove charity game in Miami. “I won’t go through what I did last season.” [...]

“I expect things to be better for me next season,” he said. “I felt like I deserved more of an opportunity than I received last season. Look at the series (against Boston when the Magic lost). I was just what was missing. I respect Coach Stan [Van Gundy] and the way he likes to play, but sometimes you have to try something different.”

It’s a shame that it’s come down to this.

Brandon Bass is a good player and usually deserves kudos for his professionalism, but he’s in no position to give an ultimatum to head coach Stan Van Gundy and demand more playing time. And will all due respect to Bass, but he was not what the Orlando Magic were missing in the 2010 NBA Eastern Conference Finals against the Boston Celtics. The need was for another dominant scorer, preferably on the perimeter, to lessen the pressure on Howard in the post. Some people assert that Bass was one of the main reasons that the Magic beat the Celtics in Games 4 and 5. Somehow they try to use those games as examples that Bass was a difference maker, and thus got a raw deal from Van Gundy throughout the season.

Wrong.

Orlando won the two games against Boston in the Eastern Conference Finals almost entirely due to the efforts of Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard, with some contributions made by J.J. Redick and Rashard Lewis. It’s insulting to diminish the Herculean performances of Nelson and Howard just to shed light that Bass was able to amass 11 points and three rebounds in roughly 23 minutes of playing time, with most of those points coming in garbage time in Game 5 when the Magic blew the game wide open in the fourth quarter. The revisionist history of Bass’ accomplishments against the Celtics is confusing. It really is.

There’s no question that Bass is a solid role player.

The problem for Bass, however, is that he’s playing in a system offensively that runs counter to his strengths. Bass is an efficient mid-range shooter, yet Orlando tries to stay away from the long two because it’s the most inefficient shot in basketball. The occasional 16-footer has its uses, no doubt, but it’s not something to build an offense around. That’s one of the many reasons why Bass didn’t get a lot of burn. Not only could Lewis and Ryan Anderson spread the floor as “true” stretch fours and provide proper spacing to Howard, but they’re better players. Statistically, Lewis had a down year but he’s put up better numbers in the past.

adj. +/- net +/- stat. +/- PER WARP Win Shares/48
Anderson +0.65 +1.8 +1.97 18.1 2.7 .161
Bass N/A -4.9 -2.65 16.5 1.1 .147
Lewis -6.31 -0.8 +1.74 14.0 2.5 .132

Another issue for Bass is that he has poor court awareness, especially on defense, where he routinely blows assignments and rotations. Some people try to excuse Bass and say that because he hasn’t gotten much playing time, he hasn’t been able to grasp Van Gundy’s concepts defensively. But Anderson played a little more than 250 minutes in the season compared to Bass, and somehow he was able to do just fine on defense and he has less experience in the NBA. For Bass, his problems defensively aren’t groundbreaking. Bass dealt with the same issues with the Dallas Mavericks for two years. The excuses only run so far.

Many look at Bass’ imposing physique and assume that he’s a great rebounder and defender, but he’s not. And the irony is that Anderson, someone who is inaccurately perceived as being soft, is better than Bass in those particular skill-sets. There’s a big misconception of Bass’ skills and it’s getting out of hand.

net def. +/- dMULT opp. PER TRB% STL% BLK%
Anderson +0.99 0.949 17.1 (vs. PF’s) 12.8 1.4 1.1
Bass +3.29 0.916 13.0 (vs. PF’s) 11.3 1.0 3.1

This has been stated before, but Bass is on the wrong team. Bass relies on instinct and energy, more than anything else, but he’s missing one component and that’s a high basketball IQ. Playing with intensity is great, but it does Bass no good because he’s almost always caught out of position on the floor. This isn’t meant to be a Bass bash-fest, but facts are facts. If Bass can improve his awareness level — which seems like a long-shot — and show Van Gundy that he is able to help the Magic in a positive manner, then he might have a future on the roster.

If Bass wants to play ahead of Anderson and be the back-up power forward, he’s going to have to earn that spot. If not, perhaps general manager Otis Smith is better off trading for a player that is a better match with Orlando. Everyone for the Magic, except for Bass, is a good fit.

It’s up to Bass to change that, one way or the other.

52 comments
zach
zach

brandon bass needs to stay ryan anderson can leave! and yes svg was an idoit to not play bass more during the season. KG during the playoff dominated lewis and when bass was in the game he was physical with KG and slowed him down on offense and defense. He is a great rebounder and really helps take some of the load off dwight. stv should try using lewis more at the 3 this year. SVG needs to play bass much much more plain and simple

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Bass Fan

There isn't a mass conspiracy to not play Bass. The issue is that Bass is playing behind two players that are superior than him, plain and simple. Plus, Lewis and Anderson are better fits than Bass on the Magic. It's not hard to figure out why Bass hasn't gotten much playing time this year. I don't understand why people think Bass is the savior for Orlando. Bass is nothing more than a role player. And just because I've interviewed Bass many times in the past, doesn't mean I can't be objective and tell it like it is. Ignoring scads of empirical data and other evidence that clearly show that Bass is on the wrong team doesn't make sense.

It's dogmatic thinking.

Bass Fan
Bass Fan

Theres no way Bass can get better if he's not playing and not being coached. Bass is a much better player than Anderson... hands down. Stan knows what he has in Bass but refuses to play him for reasons that are beyond us. He plays with a toughness and energy this team needs. Bass made a hell of an impact on the Mavs roster and Cuban said himself he wished he would have kept him, as did Byron Scott. . He definitely would have made a difference against Boston. Eddy you say you've interviewed Bass...you wouldn't dare hit him with this write up. Its insulting... You cant blame him for his frustrations

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Billy (slickw143)

It's done and over with.

I apologize to everyone for the behavior of someone that doesn't know when to stop. I always encourage an articulate and educated discussion about the Orlando Magic but when profanity is used and people are being disrespected, the line needs to be drawn.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Moika Medolla
You definitely dropped at least one "F" bomb. No one was "out debated" because you weren't taking part in any debate. You were spouting nonsense and ignored every single point anyone brought up. Just give it up already.

C.J.
C.J.

@Hoop Dreams

The answer to your question:

Because every team needs an spare banger. When Gortat went down, Bass filled backup 5 role.

The problem here is that this spare banger wasn't better than a sophomore, and unexpectedly became the bench warmer instead of the 2-year kid. He didn't like it, and so now he wants to play or go.

Too bad for him now...if he does get traded, I hope we just get cash and draft picks, and take out a chunk of that luxury tax cash.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

I deleted some of Moika Medolla's comments because he was using profanity, which is not allowed on this site.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Tim
That's a great point about running sets to get Lewis cross-matched on opposing 3's. If they did it with Vince and Jameer to get Vince on the post, they should be able to do it with Lewis and Vince maybe.

Tim
Tim

@ Eddy

Sorry about that Eddy, I didn't realize that the lower a defensive plus/minus is better. I was just trying to see if there were any significant stats that back-up Bass's ability to play here, although I agree he's less valuable then Anderson even simply because of his contract. Still I'd rather see the Magic hold on to him and use him as a situational role player then trade him just to trade him.

Also while we're on the subject of Lewis at the 3, which definitely is not a good idea, I can't understand why the Magic never run any offensive sets to try and force opposing 3's onto Lewis so he can post them up. When Pierce was forced to play the 4 for short minutes in game 5, it seemed to me like Lewis dominated him offensively.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Moika Medolla
No, it probably has something to do with you spamming the exact same thing over and over again without listening to anything anyone says. There is no healthy debate here, just people slamming their heads against a brick wall.

Hoop Dreams
Hoop Dreams

I'd just like an answer to this question:

Why did we sign Bass?

He doesn't stretch the floor. He's short (especially as a 4/5, and we really need him to play 3/4). His defense is suspect. His hustle means little if he can't get the system.

Got it.

Most of these things were evident (except maybe his inability to learn the system) before we signed him. So why did Otis spend $16 million on this guy?

If you were Stan Van Gundy, how would you use Bass? Did it make any sense to sign him in the first place? Did we really have a need for him?

Please tell me we're trade chippin' and Bass, Carter, JJ/MP, and Gortat are soon on the move for Melo and Arron Afflalo....

Ryan
Ryan

I don't completely agree with this, but I'm not really up to arguing it either. I loved Bass coming out of Dallas and yes I believe he deserves a little more playing time, but I didn't believe Stan had to take the fall at the end of the season when he said that he should've played Gortat and Bass at the 4 more in the regular season. Bass has no excuse, he practices with the team every practice and should at least know the system, much less be able to play in it.

All that being said, he has the ability and passion to play in this league and I believe he COULD do it in a Magic uniform. That doesn't mean he has to develop a three point shot, it just means he has to learn where Dwight is on the floor at all times, as well as his man that he's guarding.

Kris
Kris

NBA basketball is all about match ups. Comparing the stats of players that didn't start and played low minutes per game won't tell you who they were matched up against and what thier roll was in that particular game. Bass and Anderson have different skills but that is a good thing if you are losing in the matchup game. Anderson has better offensive skills in the post and on the perimeter but is more of a streaky shooter. Bass is more athletic and is harder to post up or drive by and also won't have 2 for 12 shooting nights and he can also get to the basket when the game gets tight. The Magic lost this year to the celtics because they only won 1 of 5 match ups on the floor.

eltharion_doa
eltharion_doa

I still think if Lee made that layup in '09 we'd have won that series.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Tyler

You're reaching a bit. I simply said that the 4-out/1-in system has produced championships before. Nowhere did I compared Howard to Duncan in my comment, whatsoever. And you can't say the Magic will never win using that philosophy. Too early to make a declaration like that.

Tyler
Tyler

I didn't read on to see if the comment you made @ Moika Medolla was ever disputed... but did you just try and compare Dwight's offensive skill to Tim Duncan when you said that the Spurs have won championships with the 4-out/1-in. I know he is making strides, but until Dwight can score more consistently (a la Tim Duncan) we will never win using that system.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Tim

I'll try to respond in-depth later, but Bass' net defensive plus/minus is worse than Anderson's by a large degree. For net defensive plus/minus, a "good" number is in the negatives. So in essence, the Magic allow 3.29 points per 100 possessions more when Bass is on the floor. Yes, Anderson's opponent PER is higher and his total rebound rate isn't THAT much better than Bass' ... you're right. But this is where observation (watching the games) needs to be used in conjunction with the data to form an accurate opinion one way or the other. And I have no doubt in my mind that Anderson is a better defender than Bass.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Moika Medolla
What's my point? When Brandon brought his "toughness" to Game 4 for 9 minutes, we were outscored almost 1 point per minute. When he wasn't on the floor, when we found what really worked for us, we outscored Boston by 12 points the remaining 39 minutes. We blew them out in the next game. Note: What worked for us wasn't us transforming Rashard into a bulky 4 or moving him to the 3... It was Dwight and Jameer going off with the PnR and our overall offensive execution being much better.

Don't tell me to "check those stats" when you haven't listened to a single thing anyone has said this entire thread. You've continuously ignored stats given. Bass a minus when he was on the court. He didn't rebound as well as Anderson. The team defense was much worse when he was on the court. These are all stats that say, yes, he was not a good player last year. Combine that with reports that surfaced last year out of Dallas that the complete lack of basketball IQ kept them from retaining Bass, and it's not a "oh, we didn't play him enough". You don't earn PT just because you're strong. You earn PT because you beat out another guy for the spot in practice. He obviously failed at that over and over again.

Stan gave him some slack at various points this year despite Bass' negative impact on the court and inability to even remember sets in practice. Bass is the one who didn't take advantage of the opportunity.

Will
Will

Well. . .though Eddy and I usually disagree on most topics, I am fully behind him here and though I have been the subject of his ire a few times, this whole series of comments has been a hoot to read. Eddy, I love your conviction: when you think your right you truly believe it.

And this time, as much as it saddens me to admit it, Bass doesn't fit in Orlando and Eddy is right. I am seperating my heart from my brain on this one though I do feel he was a 'help' in the Boston series (though not the REASON). I love Bass. Great guy, good athlete, but doesn't work in the system even though it looks like he should. Trading Anderson would be a terrible idea. Bass is a nice piece for other teams and we could benefit from trading him and in the end, me liking a guy doesn't mean as much as winning.

Oh, and Moika. If there is one thing I've learned: NEVER challenge Eddy with stats. He will blow you away. Stats are his domain.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Moika Medolla
"If you ain't notice", the Magic were outscored by 8 points in the 9 minutes he was on the floor. Every NBA player has some kind of strength, but when your strengths don't outweigh the weaknesses, well... time to sit back on the bench. That's why Bass didn't play much until we broke the game open in Game 5, and it's also why he didn't play at all in Game 6 until the game was over.

If he was good, Stan would play him. Just like if JJ was good 3 years ago, he would've been played. Stan's not putting someone on the court unless they help the team. Get over it.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

@Billy (slickw143)
he played enough to make an impact just putting a body on big baby and that block on pierce along with not shooting up a three in anderson's case was the difference. if you aint notice the celtics did not bully us when bass was in there, as for anderson big baby got wherever he wanted when he wanted...bottom line if we utilized him more during the season he wouldve been more prepared and wouldve had a much better grasp at what his role was on the team...its just like any other player thrown on a new team you look lost on the court until you get some clock and run and develop chemistry.

magicfaninTN
magicfaninTN

Bass' plus time as a defender in Dallas was functionally as a center while Dirk was on the floor as the PF. In Orlando, Bass has been tried as a PF without a great deal of defensive success. Not much role for him to play the 5 either with Howard and Gortat (better centers) on the roster.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Tim
Sorry for the double-post, but quick note: Bass is a better one-on-one defender than Anderson, all day every day. However, team defense is where Bass fails. Team offense is where he fails. Really, any situation that involves rotations, communication, and execution is where Bass fails. Ryan isn't as quick or as strong as Bass, but he plays within the system better. Plus he's 4 years younger. Anderson won't ever be an elite defender, but he can become an above-average defender at the 4, just like Rashard has become in his time with Orlando.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Moika Medolla
I want to say this. If you're going to make excuses for his game 4 performance against Boston, saying he didn't have the appropriate playing time to make an impact, that's fine. But you, nor anyone else who is also making that statement, can then use the awesome line, "Look! We won Game 4 because Bass played!!!"

I want Bass traded just to end this ridiculous debate, in all honesty.

Tim
Tim

I'm not sure where you can make the assumption that Anderson is a significantly better than Bass on defense. Anderson is a slightly better rebounder- 12.8% as opposed to 11.3% , but Anderson allows opposing PF's to post a 17.1 PER as opposed to the 13.0 PER Bass allows, garners only 1.1 Block % as opposed to Bass's 3.1%, and Bass has a net defensive plus/minus of over 2 points more than Anderson. I don't see where the stats back up that Anderson is the better defensive player.

And those are only the stats on this page. Over at 82games.com it shows that the combo of Williams-Redick-Pietrus-Bass-Gortat (the 5 man unit with the most minutes for both Anderson & Bass) combined for a win % of 60%, while Williams-Redick-Pietrus-Anderson-Gortat only posted a win % of 52%. So even if it's tough to gauge statistically what Bass is doing it seems likely that when he's on the court he is contributing to wins.

Then if we look at the unit of Williams-Redick-Pietrus-Bass-Howard (the unit with the second most minutes for both Anderson & Bass) we see that this unit posts a win percentage of 63%, while Williams-Redick-Pietrus-Anderson-Howard posts a win percentage of only 43%. This shows not only that Bass is contributing to wins, the idea that he and Dwight can't exist on the floor together isn't completely valid. It's worth noting that half of the Spur's titles came from when David Robinson and Tim Duncan played together, and while it's obvious that Bass isn't close to as talented as either of those too it's an idea that doesn't get mentioned a lot when people bandy about how the Magic play a 4-out/1-in set similar to the Spurs.

Now a lot of this might have to do with garbage time and the sample sets are small so nothing is definitive, but I'm not sure I can see where the stats back up that Dwight Howard and Brandon Bass can't play together, or where Ryan Anderson is a better defender than Brandon Bass. I'm particularly confused as to why it would hurt the Magic to play him as a situational role player. For instance, although his 11 points and 3 rebounds in Eastern Conference Finals weren't terribly impressive, they were a heck of a lot better than Ryan Anderson's 0 points and 0 rebounds in 11 minutes. Also, last year he had 4.7 Net 48 PER as a PF, while Anderson only provided a 3.9 Net 48 PER as a PF, mostly because of Bass's ability to draw the foul and defend.

I think the verdict is still out on whether Ryan Anderson or Brandon Bass is the better back-up PF moving forward, especially since Bass's trouble on defense certainly could stem from lack of playing time (I think it's unfair to give Vince Carter the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll play better this season because he's had more time to adjust and not give it to Bass as well who was a plus defender his entire time in Dallas) but Anderson is on a far better contract.

If the Magic can find a good piece for Bass there would be absolutely no reason not to trade him. Over on netsarescorching.com Sebastian Pruiti thinks that a Courtney Lee for Brandon Bass trade would be a possibility, and that's certainly one I could back. But I wouldn't just offer Bass up for nothing for suggesting that there's little use to sitting him on the end of the bench.

C.J.
C.J.

@Moika Medolla

Did you not read the article in its entirety? I'll just pull the quote for you.

"But Anderson played a little more than 250 minutes in the season compared to Bass, and somehow he was able to do just fine on defense and he has less experience in the NBA. For Bass, his problems defensively aren’t groundbreaking. Bass dealt with the same issues with the Dallas Mavericks for two years. The excuses only run so far."

And you're not even reading the whole comment. You take one thing out and comment against it, even if the rest of the comment actually addresses your argument. Here's your argument, coupled with Ryan's:

"as for adjusting i agree we did not adjust and take advantage of lewis driving or posting up pierce and making him work "

"They should start him at power forward move Lewis to the 3 because we can’t win the title without another big guy and we’re not fooling any one anymore playing Lewis at 4. Lewis plays like a 3 anyway. "

Then here are responses that were made BEFORE those comments were made.

"If you have Bass at power forward playing alongside Howard, where the heck is Lewis going to find room to post up on the low block? The spacing offensively won’t be there. Additionally, the Magic will be worse defensively with the alignment you suggested."

That was a reply to the same statement you made even EARLIER.

" it’s been stressed to death that Lewis cannot guard quick SFs. It becomes a defensive liability if Pierce, LeBron, Odom, Durant, etc beats Lewis to the punch every play"

So since you're just going to repeat the same thing over and over, then your comments are just being the biggest waste of space on this site. If Eddy doesn't mind me messing with one more quote, I'll end with this:

"Congratulations on bringing up every cliched example I’ve heard in support for Bass to get playing time and ignoring what I wrote. "

AGAIN.

The Stan 'Stache
The Stan 'Stache

@Ryan

The goal isn't too fool the opposing team. It's to beat them. That will not happen with Bass at the 4 and Lewis at the 3. LOL. Lewis is way too slow and Bass doesn't have a clue. But I think Howard would have about 2 more blocks a game. LOL

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

I agree 100% on bass's court awareness but thats not a fair assessment when you are referring to game 4 vs the celtics. For crying out loud the man did not play almost the entire season and you throw him in the playoffs against a team like the celtics and expect him to be sharp...i doubt anyone would succeed there buddy...if we would of prepped him by say giving him some blow on the court maybe he wouldnt look like hes a step behind all the time...as for adjusting i agree we did not adjust and take advantage of lewis driving or posting up pierce and making him work

trod409
trod409

Bass can do better with another team but not the Magic, he doesn't fit well in the system and by the way he's an undersized PF. This team needs a PF/C capable to match up with Gasol/Garnett and Bosh and Bass is not the right answer. Hopefully Fran Vazquez will join the Magic soon before its too late.

Ryan
Ryan

I think we should trade him because we kinda screwed him. They should start him at power forward move Lewis to the 3 because we can't win the title without another big guy and we're not fooling any one anymore playing Lewis at 4. Lewis plays like a 3 anyway.

The Stan 'Stache
The Stan 'Stache

Bass has more value as a trade piece than an 11th man. He might improve this year but I don't see him getting much more playing time. The Magic and Bass need to part ways. But the divided fan base has provided a lot of entertaining discussion.

Keep at it, Eddy. I love the new site.

C.J.
C.J.

@Moika Medolla

Unfortunately, you can't disagree with the numbers and the video evidence. Bass does have some poor court awareness, and while a good mid-range player is rare, it's not in demand.

I thought Bass would solve the problems too, but then after people mentioned his court awareness, I rewatched Game 4 and saw it. I don't remember the exact minute/second counts, but it was there.

Moika, it's been stressed to death that Lewis cannot guard quick SFs. It becomes a defensive liability if Pierce, LeBron, Odom, Durant, etc beats Lewis to the punch every play and Howard is forced to provide help defense on every play, because that opens the paint up. The whole defensive strategy falls apart.

Over the last two months analysts have delved into data and proven what is written here. Lewis helped win those two games that we had. By being faster than Glen Davis, Lewis made more 2s than 3s.

Playoffs are all about adjusting, and that doesn't mean rotations. It also means a state of mind. If Lewis starts driving the lane and drawing defenses for kick-outs, then that means he made an adjustment to help the team.

It's been said, shown, and now proven that Bass does not work for this team. I like his play as well, but sometimes things just don't stick. Anderson is a great investment, and can be extremely cheap until a couple contracts come off the books and the team gets restructured.

The Brandon Bass Experiment is over. Like Matt Barnes, it's time to part ways. Thank you Eddy, for making the truth a little more comfortable. Heh.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

i didnt say he didnt have ANY offensive skill i said he doesnt have it like before...of course all of what i said is nonsense...smh...playing time and invoving bass in our system is all bass needs to succeed, he can be just like a west or haslem type of guy but with more explosiveness...

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Moika Medolla

Yeah, Garnett has no offensive skill even though he torched Antawn Jamison in the Eastern Conference Semifinals. Garnett went from averaging 18.8 points per game against the Cavaliers to 10.3 points per game against the Magic. Howard deserves some credit, of course, but so does Lewis.

The rest of your comment is pure nonsense. You're ignoring facts.

And please stop posting multiple comments.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

First off i never insulted you by calling you a fool and second just because you write it doesnt make it right in any way...Lewis contained garnett simply because garnett does not have the offensive skill he once had and as for lewis he was contained by a much taller and longer defender in garnett. Instead of putting him at the three and posting up pierce and making him work for some points for a change...lewis can post up pierce at will and bass can play a garnett or big baby all day long...Bass also can spread the floor with his mid range it doesnt have to be threes all the time as you can see threes dont win games hustle and toughness at the 4 is what we lack...more importantly a good coach!

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Moika Medolla

No offense, but you're a fool.

It's called SPACING. The Magic run 4-out/1-in offensive sets, just like the Spurs (who, coincidentally, have won championships with a similar alignment) to maximize the spacing on the floor for Howard to execute on the low block. The object isn't to chuck up threes. The purpose is to spread players along the perimeter to make it tougher for them to double-team and rotate defensively.

I watch every game, and Lewis doesn't get killed at power forward. Statistically, it's just not true. It's ironic that you bring up David West having a field day in two games (small sample size), yet ignore that Lewis contained Kevin Garnett in the Eastern Conference Finals.

You can guarantee me that if Bass was at power forward, teams wouldn't have such an easy time scoring him? Really? Again, you ignored what I wrote. Lewis and Anderson are better defenders than Bass, PLUS they know the schemes and rotations on defense. Bass doesn't, and it has nothing to do with the fact that he's gotten little playing time. Anderson barely played more than Bass this year PLUS he has less cumulative NBA experience, yet he didn't have any trouble picking up Van Gundy's strategies defensively.

I like Bass. I've interviewed him many times and he's a good, soft-spoken person, but he doesn't NEED to start. Bass doesn't deserve anything unless he earns it.

Intangibles like hustling and setting screens means next to nothing. And when did Orlando need help rebounding when they ranked first in the regular season in defensive rebound percentage. Plus, if the Magic needed rebounding, why would they ask Bass to do the job? Anderson is the better rebounder.

Enough. Your arguments carry no weight, whatsoever.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

by the way i agree he looks lost out there sometimes but thats lack of playing time and chemistry with the team...but he is solid all around and needs to start...you can always put bass at the free throw line and lewis can post up on the wing leaving the other for howard...

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

its the truth the reason we picked up bass was to help out our weak 4 spot and yet we pick up a top young free agent 4 and dont utilize him and on top of that we put our highest paid player out of position...bass is very underrated playing all those years behind dirk has caused this..tell me why do we need three people to chuck threes...watch every game we get killed at the 4 every time against N.O we got West killed us.. i guarantee you if bass was there at the 4 teams wouldnt have such easy scoring at the 4 as they do now.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Moika Medolla

Nay. If you have Bass at power forward playing alongside Howard, where the heck is Lewis going to find room to post up on the low block? The spacing offensively won't be there. Additionally, the Magic will be worse defensively with the alignment you suggested.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

putting bass at the 4 gives lewis more scoring opportunities to post up smaller threes and still spread the floor.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Moika Medolla

Congratulations on bringing up every cliched example I've heard in support for Bass to get playing time and ignoring what I wrote.

Moika Medolla
Moika Medolla

we need bass in there at the 4 and put lewis our highest paid player at his natural position...bass does the intangibles like hustle, set screens, and hit the mid range jumper. not sit and wait for threes and get bullied to the basket every time by more powerful 4s. he made a huge difference defensively vs the celtics in game 4 and 5...he can help howard on the boards and defensively...just look how he plays bosh when we played the first game vs toronto last year, he blocked and intimidated him on his first two possesions...ryan anderson's early success is what hurt the magic and bass.

Eddy Rivera
Eddy Rivera

@Dorothy

The Nets could use Bass' talents, for example. Head coach Avery Johnson is the person that gave Bass his big break in the NBA with the Mavericks, so there would be some familiarity there.

@gatorboi352

Ignore him.

@evan d.

Why would Gortat get traded when the Magic need him more then Bass? I know that Gortat has been told that he could be dealt, if necessary, but he has more value right now than Bass does. Plus, Gortat fills a need. Bass doesn't.

@McLean

Not sure what will happen with Bass.

@Billy (slickw143)

For whatever reason, people ignore that. Bass' court awareness is poor. His inability to execute plays, schemes, and rotations is an issue that won't go away.

@Zdub

That makes no sense.

@Moika Medolla

I doubt it, but feel free to prove me wrong.

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

@Zdub
Anderson's better and cheaper, and a better *gasp* fit. Why trade him when we can trade Bass?

Zdub
Zdub

I like Bass...

What about trading Ryan Anderson?

Billy (slickw143)
Billy (slickw143)

I still remember seeing like half a dozen times, including once in the Boston series, where Dwight would be posting up on one side, and Brandon came over and tried to post up right next to him. I don't even see that in pick-up games. He's gotta go if he's making ridiculous demands like this.

McLean
McLean

whew...Eddy...man! That was right on point...I wonder can we forward this to the Orlando Magic front office...definitely will make Otis' job a whole lot easier...when we trade him...

evan d.
evan d.

I think Gortat is more likely to get traded and Bass will continue to languish in an ill-suited role. He hasn't been the player they'd hoped in being able to take pressure off Dwight, but not sure there's much of a way for him to accomplish that if they want to spread the floor.