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Dec 09

Magic trade Brandon Bass for Glen Davis

Via Marc J Spears of Yahoo! Sports:

Celtics trading F Glen Davis in sign and trade to Magic for F Brandon Bass, source tells [Yahoo! Sports].

UPDATE: At Bob Vander Weide’s press conference on Wednesday, in which he formally stepped down as CEO of the Orlando Magic, general manager Otis Smith was peppered with questions pertaining to Dwight Howard’s future with the franchise. This is what Smith said:

“We’re gonna continue to put the best team on the floor to win an NBA title. That doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re going to listen to everything Dwight has to say and placate to that. That doesn’t necessarily mean how our organization is ran. Our organization is ran… we want him here as long as we can have him here, and our organization is ran to win a title. We built a culture here for a reason.”

Here lies the problem. According to a report, Glen Davis is one of the players that Howard wanted the Magic to acquire. Howard and Davis have a friendship that dates back to their time in AAU. The issue is that, after Smith said that he wasn’t going to placate to Howard, he does just that.

Exacerbating the problem is that, on top of trying to appease Howard (which is the same cosmic mistake that the Cleveland Cavaliers made with LeBron James), Orlando — talent-wise — just got worse by trading away Bass and acquiring Davis in return.

For all of Bass’ shortcomings, which primarily was due to the fact that he wasn’t a great fit with the Magic in the first place because of his inability to spread the floor like Rashard Lewis and Ryan Anderson, he struggled with team concepts defensively even though he’s a good individual defender, and his skill-set was better suited as a top-flight reserve than as an average starter, it doesn’t change that he’s a good player with a fair contract ($4 million per year). Bass was one of the last good assets Orlando had left. And now it’s gone. Better yet, the Magic just improved the Boston Celtics’ roster — a team they’re directly competing with in the Eastern Conference.

Let’s address Davis.

Is Davis an NBA-caliber player? Yes. Is Davis a good player? No. Aside from being a decent defender (mostly because of his ability to draw charges, which is a redeeming defensive quality), Davis is extremely inefficient on offense, a below-average jumpshooter, and a below-average rebounder (for his position) that constantly has to battle with his weight. Cumulatively, Davis is a worse player than Bass and it’s not even close. Oh, and with a 4-year, $26 million contract, Davis is overpaid. As if Orlando doesn’t already have enough players being paid more than they’re worth.

How does Davis fit in with the Magic? Who knows.

What we do know is that Smith placated Howard, weakened Orlando as a team, wasted an asset, improved a conference rival, and gave away a good player on a fair contract for a bad one that’s overpaid.

19 comments
matt terry
matt terry

You obviously haven't seen B.Baby play much because he's much better then Bass and you will find that out this season.

Mateus Fregonassi
Mateus Fregonassi

Von Wafer included in the trade. Doesn't change anything at all.

Mateus Fregonassi
Mateus Fregonassi

Big Baby is better than Bass.

He is bigger, defends better, can play C, will have almost the same salary and he actually pass the ball!!

No more "No Pass" Bass.

EricFarrell
EricFarrell

What in the world is Otis doing? Furthermore what is Dwight doing? I suppose were hanging on to Dwight for the rest of the season and hoping that he stays. So many questions, so little answers. Has Dwight had a change of heart since yesterday? Is there real substance to the tampering charges with New Jersey thus making a trade there impossible? Or has Otis simply lost his mind and is now grasping at straws? What a soap opera.

KchulKK
KchulKK

I strongly disagree with Eddy. I think Brandon Bass was extremely inconsistent and a defensive liability. When it comes down to offense between the two players they are about the same BUT I'd give Glenn the edge because of his attitude/confidence. Glenn continues to fight, where as Brandon would disappear. There's a reason Brandon Bass didn't get much playing time in Orlando. Time well definitely tell who was the winner of this deal & I think the Magic benefited greatly. I don't think Brandon Bass will ever thrive in Boston's defensive skeem because they're much more complicated then the Magic's. If he couldn't consistently hold his own in Stan's very simple defense what makes you think he's going to do better in Boston? Also I don't think Otis is playing into what "Dwight likes" I think Otis see's he has a team that is a few upgrades away from a championship so he made small tweaks. Given his position with a loaded roster without much wiggle room & the small market he's in which would make it hard to land another superstar even if he had the trade bait, I think this was a very good move. How can you say that Otis shouldn't play into what Dwight says but you've also stated that in order to keep Dwight in Orlando Otis must land another superstar. Sounds a bit contradicting to your argument.

CarloSimone
CarloSimone

Well gee Eddy, when you put it THAT way...

CarloSimone
CarloSimone

I'm speechless as to this signing. It doesn't make any sense to me. The only thing Big Baby adds is that he is slightly bigger than Brandon. But still, I just don't see what this does for us at all.

erivera7
erivera7 moderator

@Mateus Fregonassi Davis is not better than Bass. You also didn't clearly click on the player comparison link.

erivera7
erivera7 moderator

@KchulKK 1.) Bass wasn't inconsistent. 2.) Bass and Davis are NOT the same on offense. Not even close. You obviously didn't click on the player comparison link. 3.) There's a reason why Bass didn't get playing time? What are you talking about? Bass started a majority of the season. 4.) Time won't tell. The winner of the deal is Boston. 5.) Stan's defense is NOT simple. 6.) I can't even comment on the rest of your argument. My head hurts.

KchulKK
KchulKK

@CarloSimone Big Baby isn't a huge upgrade over Brandon Bass but he is bigger, more aggressive & high energy. I think his confidence makes him a more consistent player on offense & defense than Brandon Bass. Most importantly, Brandon Bass was HORRIBLE on the defensive rotations & has been since he came to Orlando. Big Baby is a much better, bigger, aggressive & passionate defender, especially on the defensive rotations. Emphasis on the defensive rotations & help defense where as Brandon lacked tremendously. Glenn can also play the center position. I like this trade.

Mateus Fregonassi
Mateus Fregonassi

@erivera7 I like your stats comparison, but I like Davis' intangibles better. He has more energy, pass the ball better and his defensive awareness is decent.

If you see last season numbers you can give a little advantage to Bass. But in the season before, Davis was slightly more productive as well.

And Dwight makes his teammates better. Why can't we see how much Davis can improving playing alongside the best center in the league?

Another thing is that I think Davis' numbers playing for the Celtics are more comparable to Bass' numbers playing for the Mavs. Both played more time as an undersized C than PF.

CarloSimone
CarloSimone

@KchulKK I guess I'll have to see how it plays out. I know Dwight wanted him. I think Dwight was mostly right when he wanted us to bring in Matt Barnes so maybe it'll work out.

EricFarrell
EricFarrell

@erivera7@Mateus Fregonassi If trading for Davis convinces Howard to stay then the trade would be well worth it despite the fact that the Magic are paying more for less with Davis. But really, is anyone else besides Magic management think Dwight is going to stay. If he wanted to stay he could stop all of the speculation with a single press conference. Maybe I'm a pessimist but that press conference is not going to happen.

Dwight is gone, the sooner Otis realizes that, the sooner the Magic can start rebuilding. If Otis was smart, he would get on a phone and trade Dwight now for some combination of Bynum, Pau, and Odom for Howard and Turk. I'm going to be livid if Dwight ends up walking for nothing or we get 25 cents on a dollar on a horrible sign and trade.

Mateus Fregonassi
Mateus Fregonassi

@erivera7 Bass is a defensive liability. His errors are critical, leading to easy baskets. Davis is a better defensive player by far.

In Orlando both won't have much the ball anyways. So I choose the better defensive player with better intangibles over the black hole, defensive schemas destroyer with better stats.

The biggest advantage in Bass' game is his jumper, but the Magic wont' benefit of such advantage with Van Gundy as head coach.

erivera7
erivera7 moderator

@Mateus Fregonassi Little advantage? The advantage Bass has on Davis statistically isn't little. It's vast. Davis' intangibles don't begin to make up for the fact that he's a worse player.

Even if you selectively choose Bass' numbers with the Mavericks, again, he's far better than Davis. No matter what, Bass is better. End of story.

KchulKK
KchulKK

@CarloSimone Sadly though, I don't think this is enough for Dwight to stay in Orlando much longer. I think he'll be gone before the season starts.