Magic Basketball: An Orlando Magic blog - Part 83

Feb 22

3-on-3 roundtable: Evaluating the J.J. Redick trade


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It finally happened. After months of being the subject of trade rumors, J.J. Redick was dealt to the Milwaukee Bucks alongside Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith in exchange for Tobias Harris, Doron Lamb, and Beno Udrih.

The Bucks get a player in Redick who is arguably having the best season of his career, while the Orlando Magic acquire two young players in the second-year Harris and rookie Lamb. Udrih’s contract ($7.4 million) expires at the end of the season.

Magic Basketball evaluates the Magic trading J.J. Redick to the Bucks.

Good deal or bad deal for the Magic?

Nate Drexler: Good deal for the future. Bad deal to lose such a valued piece. It’s tough to see a guy like Redick go after he’s poured it out for the city and the team, but now the Magic have five rookies and an ideal building block for the next few years.

Sean Highkin: Good deal. They didn’t get a first round pick, but if there wasn’t one to be had, they at least came away with two cheap, young talents in Doron Lamb and Tobias Harris, as well as the expiring contract of Beno Udrih, who doesn’t compromise their future flexibility whatsoever. Trading Ayon and Josh McRoberts (the latter in a separate deal) also opens up more minutes for Kyle O’Quinn and Andrew Nicholson.

Noam Schiller: Good deal. Tobias Harris may or may not develop into a good player, but he has a shot at it. The Magic weren’t getting a player with similar upside for a late first round pick and a player with upside had to be coming back from any Redick deal.

Whose outlook improves the most because of this deal?

Drexler: Jacque Vaughn so long as he can keep his job. This is, believe it or not, an ideal situation for a coach. The future is bright with the potential to free up some cap space and some promising rookies in the lineup. Now comes the key moment — can the Magic build on this? Vaughn has to be hopeful.

Highkin: The Bucks. Redick and Mike Dunleavy might be a little redundant, but J.J.’s having a stellar year and gives the Bucks another perimeter threat who’s also a solid defender and ballhandler as they gear up for a playoff push.

Schiller: Andrew Nicholson. Between moving Ayon and the Josh McRoberts-Hakim Warrick trade, there are now very few bigs to take away the rookie’s minutes. (Now watch Jacque Vaughn go ahead and give Warrick 30 minutes a night.)

Whose outlook declines the most because of this deal?

Drexler: Probably J.J. Redick. For all the work he’s put in and the improvements he’s made, it can’t be awe-inspiring to get traded to another sub-par franchise. Redick would have been an ideal piece for a contender and he knows it. It’s hard to be a winner when you just can’t win.

Highkin: It’s a wash. The Magic probably weren’t going to re-sign Redick anyway and they were already plenty terrible with him on the team. They aren’t going to get better this season from this deal, but Rob Hennigan’s rebuilding plan continues to fall into place.

Schiller: There isn’t too much downside here — the Magic weren’t winning a lot of games anyway — but a guy who could see his touches decline is Jameer Nelson. He’s a better player than Beno Udrih, but not by much, and if Udrih goes on a late push towards getting a better contract this summer, he might steal some of Jameer’s control of the offense.

Feb 22

Did the Magic get enough for J.J. Redick?


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The one big move that most fans and analysts expected the Magic to make before Thursday’s trade deadline came down to the wire, but general manager Rob Hennigan sent J.J. Redick to the Milwaukee Bucks, along with Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith, in return for Beno Udrih, Doron Lamb, and Tobias Harris. He also traded Josh McRoberts to the Bobcats in a separate deal for Hakim Warrick, who will likely be waived.

Redick was one of the longest-tenured members of the Magic and one of just three players (along with Hedo Turkoglu and Jameer Nelson) remaining from the 2008-09 team that went to the Finals. He was the Magic’s best player this season, but his upcoming free agency and the dollars he will undoubtedly command on the open market made this move something of an inevitability. And the return the Magic got on him is solid to say the least.

Losing Redick will hurt the Magic in the short term. He was having a fantastic season and was Orlando’s most consistent scoring threat. But the fact of the matter is this: the Magic’s win-loss record is extremely low on the list of priorities for the organization this season. They’re going to be in the lottery regardless of whether Redick is on the roster or not. Developing the young talent under Jacque Vaughn is a much more pressing issue than the number of games they win.

The Magic were reportedly looking for three things in any prospective Redick deal: expiring contracts, young talent, and picks. Hennigan hit on two of those three bullet points.

As the deadline drew closer, teams grew hesitant to give up a first round draft pick for Redick, which is understandable in light of the new CBA’s luxury-tax penalties. It will cost anywhere between $7-$10 million to re-sign Redick in the offseason and teams aren’t inclined to give up cheap, controllable talent either as a rental or to offset the deal Redick will inevitably get.

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Feb 22

Reactions to the Magic trading away J.J. Redick


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  • Kevin Pelton of ESPN Insider: “From the Magic’s perspective this decision was much more straightforward. Orlando knew Redick would likely leave as an unrestricted free agent and wanted to get value for him before then. The Magic reportedly had multiple offers of late first-round picks and decided instead to go with Harris, the No. 19 pick in 2011 and a prospect with more upside than anyone Orlando could have gotten with one of those late first-rounders.”
  • Mike Prada of SB Nation: “The grade on this deal mostly depends on what you think of Harris. He was starting and playing decently earlier in the year, then weirdly got buried in the small forward rotation. Part of the issue was that it was a numbers game in Milwaukee. He originally played only because Luc Richard Mbah a Moute was hurt and Mike Dunleavy was better off the bench. Once Mbah a Moute got healthy, there was nowhere for Harris to go. Harris lacks shooting range, but when paired with the right combo forward, his athleticism, defense and post game can be valuable. That might be a sneaky pickup for Orlando.”
  • Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don’t Lie: “Lamb has struggled, significantly, this year. Harris is a good player and still only 20, but hardly a game-changer in terms of young assets. Still, considering the team’s needs in the backcourt as the season winds down, the goodwill toward Redick, and the potential behind Harris, this was a fine move for the Magic.”
  • D.J. Foster of ProBasketballTalk: “Harris should get playing time on a young Orlando team that will be much more patient with him than Scott Skiles or Jim Boylan was. At just 20 years old, Harris has the potential to be a very solid rotation player in the future.”
  • Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel: “Redick, a 28-year-old shooting guard, will become an unrestricted free agent in July, and Magic officials were leery of tying up millions of dollars long term on a complementary player such as Redick. Hennigan and his colleagues also feared Redick would sign elsewhere and leave the franchise with no assets in return. […] Hennigan said the Magic spoke with about a dozen teams in recent days, and he said the team had some chances to receive a late first-round pick. But Harris was the 19th overall pick in 2011, and Magic officials believe Harris and Lamb have upside. They’re also inexpensive.”
  • Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel: “Magic faithful obviously lose a fan favorite in J.J. and an asset in the community. Even more than that, they lose a solid, self-made player who developed into one of the top sixth men in the league, if not a quality starter who can do more than shoot. Great qualities, right? All those attributes describes the perfect player who fits into the Magic’s new mission statement. But J.J. was too costly to keep, in the Magic’s eyes, although I still contend letting a good player get away might haunt the team.”
  • Ben Golliver of The Point Forward: “If there’s one totally under-the-radar player moved on Thursday that can emerge into a real player by shifting locales and being given a larger opportunity, it would be Harris. Included as one of the pieces Milwaukee sent to Orlando in exchange for Redick, Harris has good size for a wing and posted decent per-minute numbers in a limited role for the Bucks. Milwaukee simply had too many veteran options in front of him; in Orlando, coach Jacque Vaughn should be delighted to give Harris the opportunity to showcase his talents.”
  • Josh Cohen of “Now with Tobias Harris, a 20-year-old with boundless potential to emerge into a valuable player, on board and with Nikola Vucevic, Andrew Nicholson and Maurice Harkless still in the infantile stages of their development, Orlando has accumulated a slew of budding young players to build around. And, of course, the Magic will harvest a high draft pick in June’s NBA Draft this year and perhaps next year as well when an alleged star-studded draft class is unveiled. But what will really separate Orlando from most other rebuilding teams is the amount of salary cap space it will have to stock up on free agents in two to three years.”
  • John Denton of “While losing Redick will assuredly be painful to Magic fans that had fallen in love with the hard-working shooting guard, the franchise has made clear its intentions to build over this season and next with young players while stockpiling salary cap dollars. The hope is to have the salary cap space following the 2013-14 season to lure one, if not two, marquee free agents to the Magic. Pair those players with a foundation of talented young players already in the fold and to come in the next two NBA Drafts, and Orlando hopes to have a championship-ready roster after next season.”
  • Evan Dunlap of Orlando Pinstriped Post: “Several factors came into play Thursday. Ultimately, the Magic’s goals as they rebuild are to soundly manage the salary cap and to add players ‘who are about the right things,’ to use Hennigan’s term. The Magic want “to create something that’s sustainable,” and Thursday’s moves help them in that respect, according to Hennigan.”
  • Tom Ziller of SB Nation: “Yep, this was the rare trade that helps both teams. The Magic took a pending free agent not on their timeline and a mid-rung big man and swapped them out for two prospects and a neat point guard who is surprisingly fun to watch. Tobias Harris and Doron Lamb might end up irrelevant, but this is a classic case of maximizing your dice rolls, something all young teams should try to do.”

Feb 21

Magic acquire Tobias Harris, Doron Lamb, and Beno Udrih from Milwaukee; Hakim Warrick from Charlotte

Via Orlando Magic press release:

The Orlando Magic have acquired forward Tobias Harris, guard Doron Lamb and guard Beno Udrih from the Milwaukee Bucks in exchange for guard J.J. Redick, forward-center Gustavo Ayón and guard Ish Smith, general manager Rob Hennigan announced today. In addition, the Magic acquired forward Hakim Warrick and cash considerations from the Charlotte Bobcats in exchange for forward Josh McRoberts. The Magic intend to waive Warrick.

“Tobias (Harris) and Doron (Lamb) are two young players who complement our current roster and have tremendous potential to grow with us,” Hennigan said. “Tobias is a versatile forward that can play both forward positions, while Doron is a combo guard who helps fortify our backcourt with his shooting and ball-handling ability. Beno (Udrih) is a proven point guard who adds veteran leadership and experience to our team.”

“J.J. (Redick) was a great contributor to the Orlando Magic during his time with our organization, both on the court and in the community. We wish him, Gustavo (Ayón), Ish (Smith) and Josh (McRoberts) the best of luck in the future.”

Feb 21

Milwaukee Bucks acquire J.J. Redick

Via Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports:

With the prospect of losing guard J.J. Redick to free agency this summer the Orlando Magic traded him to the Milwaukee Bucks, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Bucks sent the Magic Doron Lamb, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih for Redick. Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith were sent to Milwaukee as part of the deal for Redick.

Feb 21

Charlotte Bobcats acquire Josh McRoberts

Via Rick Bonnell of the Charlotte Observer:

The Charlotte Bobcats did a deal at the trade deadline, but it won’t exactly change the course of the franchise.

The Bobcats moved one little-used power forward, Hakim Warrick, for another little-used power forward – Orlando’s Josh McRoberts.

This makes the Bobcats a bit younger: McRoberts, who played at Duke, is in his sixth NBA season, while Warrick is in his eigth. It also shaves a couple hundred thousand off the Bobcats’ salary cap.

But this is essentially a bit player for a bit player. Warrick played in only one of his last 11 games as a Bobcat. McRoberts played in three of his last four games with the Magic, never for more than 14 minutes.

McRoberts’ contract ends at the conclusion of this season. Warrick has a $4 million team option for next season.

Feb 21

Recap: Dallas Mavericks 111, Orlando Magic 96

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With time winding down in the third quarter, Jameer Nelson beat O.J. Mayo to a loose ball at half-court and had a wide open lane to the basket for a layup. But Nelson elected to pass the ball to J.J. Redick, who was darting to the rim on the right-hand side of the court.

However, Mayo hustled back in transition and blocked Redick’s layup attempt. The ball bounced on the rim a few times, which allowed Mayo time to recover and grab the rebound from Nelson.

Mayo raced down the court, triggering a fast break for the Dallas Mavericks just seconds after the Orlando Magic had a 2-on-1 fast break. Mayo crossed the half-court line and threw an alley-oop pass to Vince Carter for a dunk that woke up a quiet crowd at American Airlines Center — shades of “Vinsanity.”

It was a game-defining play.

Instead of the Magic, who had stormed back from a 16-point deficit thanks to their defense, extending their lead to 81-73, it was a four-point swing for the Mavericks and they now trailed only by four points (79-75) with 1:48 remaining in the quarter.

After Carter’s alley-oop dunk, he followed that up with two three-pointers on Dallas’ next three possessions. The second three-pointer allowed the Mavericks to retake the lead at 83-82 before the end of the period. It was a lead Dallas would never relinquish again, as they dominated the fourth quarter and put Orlando away for good.

And in the final period, Nelson had to leave the game with a left knee injury after fighting for a loose ball with Darren Collison.

It was not a good night for the Magic, who put up a valiant effort but were soundly defeated — their 26th loss in the last 29 games.

MVP (Most Valuable Player)

Even though his stat line wasn’t that impressive, Carter was unquestionably the difference maker for the Mavericks. He made several momentum-changing plays late in the third quarter that turned the tide back in Dallas’ favor after they coughed up a 16-point lead. 

Defining Moment

Trailing 79-73 with less than two minutes left in the third quarter, Mayo’s chase-down block on Redick and alley-oop pass to Carter for a dunk on the other end changed the complexion of the game. The Mavericks would retake the lead shortly thereafter. 

That Was … the Coup de Grâce

In the middle of a 21-2 fourth quarter run, Carter stole Andrew Nicholson’s outlet pass and dished off a behind-the-back pass to Shawn Marion for a layup. A highlight-reel play that served as the proverbial icing on the cake for Dallas. 

Feb 20

Preview: Orlando Magic at Dallas Mavericks


  • Teams: Orlando Magic at Dallas Mavericks
  • Date: February 19, 2013
  • Time: 8:30 p.m.
  • Television: Fox Sports Florida
  • Arena: American Airlines Center


  • Magic: 15-38
  • Mavericks: 23-29

Probable starters


  • Jameer Nelson
  • Arron Afflalo
  • Maurice Harkless
  • Andrew Nicholson
  • Nikola Vucevic


  • Darren Collison
  • O.J. Mayo
  • Shawn Marion
  • Dirk Nowitzki
  • Bernard James

Advanced stats


  • Pace: 91.5 (17th of 30)
  • Offensive Rating: 102.0 (26th of 30)
  • Defensive Rating: 108.0 (25th of 30)


  • Pace: 94.6 (4th of 30)
  • Offensive Rating: 105.1 (13th of 30)
  • Defensive Rating: 106.5 (19th of 30)

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The Two Man Game

Feb 20

Wednesday’s Magic Word

  • The Milwaukee Bucks are interested in J.J. Redick, but according to one report, the Orlando Magic are not interested in acquiring Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and the remainder of his two-year, $8.97 million contract. Redick is also seeking a new contract close to $10 million per year. UPDATE: Lance Allan of NBC Milwaukee reports that “talks are over.”
  • The Memphis Grizzlies could use a shooter like Redick. The problem is that the Grizzlies don’t have many assets — their 2013 first round pick was sent to the Cleveland Cavaliers in a salary dumping trade on January 22.
  • The Magic couldn’t overcome a 20-point deficit in last night’s loss to the Charlotte Bobcats.
  • Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports: “Indiana, Milwaukee, Chicago and Minnesota have expressed interest in trading for Redick, but teams have been reluctant to give up a first-round pick and a good young player for a player who could turn into a rental for the rest of the season.”
  • Amin Elhassan of ESPN Insider thinks that the Chicago Bulls are the “perfect” landing spot for Redick.

Feb 20

Recap: Charlotte Bobcats 105, Orlando Magic 92

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With each loss, the Orlando Magic bring themselves closer to having the worst record in the NBA, trailing only the Charlotte Bobcats for that dubious honor.

The Magic’s latest loss came against those very same Bobcats, as they were defeated 105-92 in their first game back from the All-Star break. For Orlando, they have now lost 25 of their last 28 games and have fallen two games behind Charlotte for the worst record in the league.

This was a game where Charlotte jumped out to a big early lead and Orlando was unable to fully recover from a large deficit.

In the first quarter, the Bobcats got off to a quick start thanks in large part due to Gerald Henderson, who made five of his first six field goals and scored 14 of his season-high 24 points in the period. Matched up primarily against Arron Afflalo, Henderson did whatever he wanted offensively. He did a nice job of mixing it up — nailing jumpers from the perimeter, attacking the rim, and getting to the free-throw line.

Buoyed by Henderson’s hot start, Charlotte finished with a season-high in first quarter points (37).

The Bobcats were able to keep the momentum going in the second quarter, and coupled with a lackadaisical effort from the Magic, they finished the period on a 15-3 run and opened up a 20-point lead heading into halftime.

In the second half, Orlando played with more energy and effort on both ends of the floor. Particularly on the defensive side of the ball, as Charlotte’s offense cooled down considerably in the third quarter after a torrid first half. That allowed the Magic to begin to chip away at their deficit.

Orlando continued their comeback bid in the fourth quarter, whittling down the Bobcats’ lead to 90-88 with 4 minutes left. But Charlotte responded by ending the game on a 15-4 run. The catalyst was Kemba Walker, who had a quiet first half, but scored 20 of his 24 points in the second half and accounted for 11 of the final 15 points for the Bobcats.

MVP (Most Valuable Player)

The player of the game was Henderson. He scored 14 of his 24 points in the first quarter and paved the way for Charlotte to pick up a rare road win coming out of the All-Star break.


You could make a case that Walker was the MVP of this game based on his performance in the fourth quarter. He scored 11 of his 24 points in the final period and quelled the Magic’s comeback attempt.

Defining Moment

After trailing 63-43 at halftime, Orlando clawed their way back into the game and cut their deficit to as little as two points late in the fourth quarter. But the Bobcats responded by finishing the game on a 15-4 run.

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